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OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
COLUMBIA HEIGHTS TRAFFIC COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 4, 2015
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Pro Tem Olson at 5:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Doty, Olson, Tyler, Carlson arrived at 5:40 p.m.
Staff present: Kathy Young, Assistant City Engineer
Ted Fischer, Police Sergeant
Sue Schmidtbauer, Public Works Secretary
Council Liaison: Donna Schmitt
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Tyler, second by Doty, to approve the minutes of April 6, 2015, as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
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A.PUBLIC HEARING TO INSTALL TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE INTERSECTION OF 7
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STREET AND 42 AVENUE
At the Traffic Commission meeting on April 6, 2015, Commissioners called for a Public Hearing to
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consider installation of YIELD or STOP signs at the intersection of 7 Street and 42 Avenue,
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yielding or stopping traffic on 42 Avenue.
The Police Department reviewed the reported accident records at this intersection for the past five
years. There were two accidents in 2010, one in 2013, five in 2014 (two in January and two in
February), and two in 2015. The Commission felt the accidents in January and February of 2014
were potentially weather related due to the extreme winter conditions that year.
The Commission also requested the Police Department review reported accident records at several
other intersections in the area, both controlled and uncontrolled. The accidents ranged from
0 to 1 at intersections with stop signs,
2 to 3 at intersections with yield signs, and
1 to 9 at uncontrolled intersections (including accidents prior to yield signs being installed).
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At the intersection of 42 Avenue and 7 Street the visibility seems to be good so it is surprising
there are so many accidents.
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Currently on 7 Street, traffic yields at 41 Avenue and stops at 44 Avenue. On 42 Avenue,
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traffic stops at 5 Street and Jefferson Street.
Commission members Doty and Tyler had no comments. Olson stated that the grid streets we are
talking about are a disaster, and it seems like traffic gets worse every year. He is not stop or yield
sign oriented, but when there have been so many accidents in such a short time we need to take
another look. That is the reason for tonight’s public hearing. He then asked for public comments.
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Kristopher Barto of 42 and 7 Avenue asked Olson why he is not a proponent of stop or yield signs at an
uncontrolled intersection. Olson replied because of the obvious speed limit and good visibility. He stated
stop signs, and yield signs especially, tend to be ignored in that type of area and are not a cure-all for the
problems they are having in that area. Kris stated he witnessed an accident on March 2 where two cars
basically exploded in the intersection. Both drivers were not from around here. If you go through an
intersection three blocks back that has a sign, you assume if you don’t have a yield or stop sign at the
upcoming intersection, that the other person does. He warns people coming to his house for the first time
that there are uncontrolled intersections in the city. He feels that an intersection with nine reported accidents
needs traffic control. He also brought up the school bus accident in 2013. Agreed this intersection has
visibility but does not understand why it is less relevant to have a stop sign here than four blocks down.
Tyler responded that you cannot have stop signs at every intersection. The state has certain guidelines that
mandate cities and towns meet certain criteria to install traffic signs. That is why you don’t see stop signs at
every intersection. The issue is not the intersection, it is the drivers. The driver’s manual states that the
driver on the right has the right of way, but is still required to slow down. Tyler stated he is not debating the
need for a stop sign, just explaining that at every meeting we get the same statements from everyone and are
very sensitive about this. He will vote on the motion but wants to advise that a stop sign is not necessarily
going to solve the problem. Doty interjected that no matter how many signs you have, drivers will still go
through them and most stop signs do not prevent accidents. Barto stated the accident he saw both cars were
going at full speed and neither slowed down for the right of way.
Bill Hugo, resident, stated the intersection is also a bus stop and kids are waiting on that corner every
morning for a bus. He feels every corner in Columbia Heights needs at least a 2-way stop.
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Another resident has lived at the corner of 42 and 7 Street for 50 years and stated there have been a lot of
accidents since he’s lived there. He feels stop signs need to be placed on that corner. Approximately one
month ago a car came up over the bank into his yard almost to his front door.
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Louisa Podlich at 4204 7 Street agrees about the winter weather conditions in 2014. However, because of
snow removal it was not just the icy conditions that contributed to accidents but the snow banks also reduced
visibility. Feels we need to consider stop signs due to winter conditions.
Amber Burnette loves the neighborhood but thinks about people in the intersection due to accidents. People
drive really fast. People not familiar with neighborhood have problems with the intersection. Stated drivers
have a responsibility, but the city has a responsibility to look out for them.
Sergeant Fischer stated that intersection may get more traffic because of the police station.
Carlson feels there have been too many accidents at that intersection to ignore. Olson agreed but reiterated
that signage gets so heavy that drivers disregard it. Carlson agreed and stated he doesn’t trust any
intersection, even if there are signs. One resident stated people that don’t know the neighborhood trust it and
expect someone else to slow down because there is no sign, especially when they had one two blocks earlier.
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Barto stated he doesn’t understand what the difference is between 6 and 7Streets. Young stated the
accidents have been recent for some reason. Barto stated those are the reported accidents. Tyler advised that
is all we can go by. Young feels something seems to have changed that is causing more accidents at this
intersection. Barto states drivers are not paying attention and that a stop sign can reduce the number of
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people not paying attention. Carlson asked in what direction the stop signs should be placed. Barto stated it
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doesn’t matter; he’s seen accidents from both directions. Podlich feels it should be on 42 Avenue, that way
something is happening every two blocks. She feels that would make people slow down a little. Barto
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agreed with 42 Avenue. Motion by Tyler to recommend to the City Council to install STOP signs at the
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intersection of 7 Street and 42 Avenue, stopping traffic on 42 Avenue. Second by Carlson. Motion
passed unanimously.
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Advised residents motion will go to the May 11 City Council meeting. Signs will most likely take a couple
of weeks to install, depending on if they need to be ordered or are in stock.
OTHER OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
None.
OTHER NEW BUSINESS
None.
REPORTS
A.CITY ENGINEER
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Parking on 49 Avenue for the Hylander Center was approved on a trial basis by the City Council.
June Agenda Items
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The Council received a request to change the YIELD signs on Quincy Street at 43 Avenue to two-
way or four-way STOP signs.
The Police Department is reviewing the parking on the west side of Monroe Street from 46½ Avenue
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to 47 Avenue, based on the number of complaints received from residents. The majority of vehicles
parked on Monroe Street belong to Hilltop residents.
B.POLICE
None.
C.COMMISSIONERS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Carlson, second by Doty to adjourn the meeting at 6:09 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sue Schmidtbauer, Public Works Secretary