HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 1, 2014OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
COLUMBIA HEIGHTS TRAFFIC COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2014
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Carlson at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Carlson, Doty, Tyler
Staff present: Kathy Young, Assistant City Engineer
Lenny Austin, Police Captain
Sue Schmidtbauer, Public Works Secretary
Council Liaison: Donna Schmitt
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Tyler, seconded by Doty, to approve the minutes of July 7, 2014, as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
None
OTHER OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST TO INSTALL "YIELD" OR "STOP" SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF
WASHINGTON STREET AND 42ND AVENUE
In 2011 residents on Washington Street submitted a petition for yield or stop signs at the
intersection of Washington Street and 42nd Avenue. The concern was the speed of traffic and
safety of children on the block. At that time, there had been three reported accidents in three
years. Two of the accidents were caused by operators with no driver's license. The Traffic
Commission denied the request for traffic control.
Recently, Ms. Becky Chudek requested the Public Works Department review the pine tree on
the southeast corner of the intersection for compliance with the City's visibility ordinance. In
a subsequent conversation, Ms. Chudek requested stop signs be installed at the intersection
because of the number of accidents and concern for safety of children in the neighborhood.
The visibility at the intersection is fair. On Washington Street traffic yields at 41st Avenue
and stops at 43rd Avenue; on 42nd Avenue traffic stops at 5th Street and Jefferson Street. Staff
review found approximately 2' to 3' of the pine tree branches extend into the visibility
triangle.
Young reviewed the MUTCD guidelines and stated this intersection came up once before in
2011. She requested the Police Department take another look at the accident records. Police
Department staff found five accidents within the last five years. There was one accident in
2011, nothing in 2012 or 2013, and four accidents to date in 2014, two during the winter
months, one with ice conditions being a contributing factor. The other accident was a hit and
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run in August involving a driver with no license. The crashes at that intersection are usually
fairly low speed; however, last year was an interesting year due to the amount of snow
affecting visibility.
Carlson looked at the intersection and stated the pine tree does make somewhat of a difference
and it is in violation of City ordinance. If the tree were trimmed up from the bottom it would
clear up the northbound and westbound portion of the corner, but he doesn't feel it would
make a difference from the other two directions. Ms. Chubek stated not all the accidents have
been reported. She has counted eight accidents, one recently with a school bus and another
where a car lodged into her neighbor's front yard and stopped at the tree. Her children play in
the front yard of the neighbor that is right on the corner and she is concerned about their
safety. Ms. Chubek stated she does not really care if the tree is trimmed or not, she would
rather not bother the homeowner. She would like to see a yield or stop sign installed as she is
concerned about her children's safety because there are a lot of accidents and they end up in
the yards.
Austin stated the accident with the bus was a small bus with four students on board traveling
westbound on 42nd Avenue. Tyler commented that they would have been obscured by the
tree. Young clarified what we can and cannot do regarding the pine tree. Because the tree is
on private property, we can only request that the resident trim it from the bottom up, but we
cannot require it. We can only require them to trim the 2 -3 branches on the intersection side
that extend 2 -3 feet into the visibility triangle. We've requested that they consider trimming
the tree from the bottom up or even removing it but have not received a response to date.
Doty stated last time these accidents were brought up (2011) a landscape company was
parking their vehicles on Washington Street overnight. The woman was concerned about
small children running in the street. Then Captain Austin brought up parking restrictions
because cars and trucks were parked on Washington Street blocking visibility and kids were
running in- between the parked vehicles. It was stated that we would need to chalk the tires,
and tow to enforce the parking restrictions. At that point the resident dropped the issue. It
had nothing do with the intersection visibility. The tree was trimmed up a couple of feet back
then but the issue was the landscaping trucks that were parked on the street in front of the tree.
Now it's winter and there is no landscape work. Doty suggested that we check this in the
months of June, July and August to see if the landscaping trucks are parked on the street. Ms.
Chubek stated she owns the landscape company and they are her trucks. She said they now
only park on the street for six hours and then pull the trucks in. They used to park underneath
the tree but no longer park there. She did not know of any kids running in the street. Doty
stated that the woman who was here was stating all this information when she wanted the stop
signs. Back then it was parking ordinance.
Carlson asked if we meet any guidelines for a yield or stop sign. Young responded that the
crash records meet the threshold, but she does think if the property owner were willing to trim
the tree from the bottom up, not just out of the visibility triangle, it would help. Schmitt
stated they have a tree like that and they trim it but it didn't make any difference last winter
because there was so much snow - -they still couldn't see anything. Even after trimming, the
branches became weighted down with snow, and so it was only a temporary fix. Tyler stated
our actions should not be based on whether they trim the tree or not, if there is a hazard there
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we need to address it. Carlson stated the issue at the intersection - -to see someone coming
from the east when you're northbound or someone from the south when you're westbound
does make a difference. Would like to see if we can talk the resident into trimming the tree to
open it up underneath, feels it would solve the problem. Tyler feels there may be a problem if
the tree isn't trimmed and if it is trimmed we may still have a problem. We're basing our
decision on whether they trim their tree or not and there's no legal requirement to do so. Ms.
Chudek stated she knows the neighbor a little bit and feels it would be more effective for her
to talk to the neighbor rather than the commission. However, she still would like to see a
yield or stop sign at that intersection. Her trucks may have been out of compliance in 2011
but she has fixed that now. She would really appreciate a yield or stop sign. Carlson stated a
yield sign generally makes people go faster. Ms. Chudek stated it did help the St. Matthews
corner.
Young stated that in 2011 there were three reported accidents in three years but two of them
were operators with no driver's license. Austin stated drivers with suspended licenses has
become common. Just recently, the accident on 43rd and 7 t was a driver who had a
suspended license. Young advised Ms. Chudek that putting in a yield or stop may provide a
tendency for traffic in the opposite direction to go faster, so that is something to consider.
Carlson stated that if you put a stop sign where there really shouldn't be one, people have a
tendency to go through it.
Young was unable to find a phone number for the tree property. Ms. Chudek does not know
who owns the house.
Ms. Chudek asked if it would do any good to put in a yield sign. Carlson stated a stop sign
and yield sign can mean the same thing. If traffic is coming from the other way you're to stop
for the yield sign.
Motion by Tyler to recommend approval of staff recommendation "A" opting for a YIELD
sign. Young stated that to install intersection control like that requires a public hearing
process, so Option A is to call for a public hearing at the January meeting. Motion seconded
by Carlson. Motion passed. Doty abstained. Next meeting will be Monday, January 5.
Young will notify residents within 300 feet in each direction of the intersection and let them know about the
hearing and that they are welcome to come to the meeting and voice their opinion. We will know more
about the tree trimming by then as a letter has been sent. Ms. Chudek stated she will also talk to the property
owner about the tree. She's unsure if it will do any good but will talk to her about it.
OTHER NEW BUSINESS
None
REPORTS
A. CITY ENGINEER
Young stated there seems to have been a rash of accidents in the area of discussion; 42nd and
Washington and 43rd and 7 t Street. She also receives quite a few emails from a property owner
at 42 nd and 7th Street. She's keeping track of what's going on there. Police is going back and
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researching all the accident records. Young asked Captain Austin if he had any insight on the
number of accidents. Austin stated it could be a lot of things—weather may be part of it or new
residents. When he first started with the city he noticed that there are a lot of uncontrolled
intersections in this city which is hard to get used to. There were also a lot of accidents last
winter due to the weather and thinks that's a big part of it. Doty stated that stop signs are just as
hard to stop for in winter. The 2011 concern at 42nd and Washington was more in the summer
when kids were playing and vehicles were parked on the street. We should check again
regarding parked trucks and vans on the street. Austin agrees with Young, that a yield sign may
increase speed at that intersection. However, the yield signs on 41't and 7th Street by the Islamic
Center have helped. The Islamic Center originally wanted stop signs but tried the yield signs
and they have made things much better. Doty questioned if a yield sign on 42nd and Washington
will be too close to the ones on 4l 't and 7th in that drivers will start disrespecting the signs.
B. POLICE
None.
C. COMMISSIONERS
Doty questioned why there were flags by the stop sign on 44th Avenue and Arthur Street. Young
stated this was to draw attention to the stop signs because no one stops. They were only put up
for a short time. Young stated this is a county road. We are considering painting the word
"STOP" in the street. Donna feels the flags help. The woman on the corner stated no one was
stopping so we put the flags up temporarily.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Carlson, seconded by Doty to adjourn the meeting at 6:09 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sue Schmidtbauer, Public Works Secretary