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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJul 9, 1974July 9, 1974 Official Proceedings Special Meeting Hearing on Street Improvements July 9, 1974 Meeting was called to order at 8:01 p.m. present Heintz and Norberg-absent Roll Call Logacz, Land, Nawrocki- Motion by Land, Second by Logacz to appoint Margo Emerson Secretary Pro Tem for this meeting. Roll Call - All Ayes Mayor Nawrocki began the meeting by discussing what the purpose of the meeting was and stating what the order of business for the meeting would be. First the Engineering Department would discuss the plans for this work. Then the floor would be open for general questions to understand what the proposal is about, and finally the streets would be discussed separately in the order in which they appeared on the agenda. ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REPORT Assistant City Engineer, Clayton Berg, was present to discuss the plans. He had a map showing the areas of the City under consideration. The condition of the streets was pointed out and what the need was for improving them. The work would consist of scarifying, adding material and oil and relaying and roll ing. The purpose was blade laying bituminous plant or remixed material to correct the existing deficiencies in strength, crown, and drainage. The estimated cost was pointed out as being 90¢ per front foot, or 30¢ per front foot for an avenue charge. Mr. Berg showed sketches explaining what the terminology used meant. Approximately 30 people were present at this special meeting. GENERAL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION Mr. John Ward, 965-44½ Avenue asked for a clarification on cost. He wanted to know if the estimates were exact and if the assessed cost would completely pay for the project or if additional Funds would have to be used out of the genera] maintenance fund. Mr. Berg answered that the entire project would be billed to the homeowners. Mr. Ward, as well as some of the others present, felt that the cost of this type of work should continue to come out of general funds instead of billing homeowner. Mayor Nawrocki explained this plan to him. He pointed out the fact that people living on permanent streets had to pay for those streets and it is not fair to have them pay for maintenance on those streets which are not permanent. He explained how the 90¢ would be divided up. Approximately 50% would go for material and the other 50~ divided between the wage for the operator and for the equipment used itself. Mr. Ward pointed out that he merely wanted to know that the cost estimate was not merely an arbitrary figure, but that it has been figured out exactly. A lengthy discussion was July 9, 1974 held on paying for this maintenance out of general funds vs. billing back to the homeowners. At various times throughout the meeting the discussion returned to this and at various time angry disagreements were expressed by those present in the audience. Another man wanted to know why only temporary work is being considered. He was in favor of having a permanent street put in rather than pay for the temporary work over and over again. Mayor Nawrocki pointed out instances in the past when people have been opposed to permanent surfacing , so the City must consider temporary. He further pointed out how a permanent surfacing might be accomplished. One way is for the people in the area to sign and bring in a petition. He encouraged those interested in this to do so. The estimated cost given on permanent street was $12.00 per front foot. Another gentleman asked for clarification between a street and avenue charge. City Assessor, Mildred Carlson, explained this. One man spoke on the work which had been done on 42nd Avenue. He felt it has been a very poor job and if that was an indication of what could be expected on the streets in question, then he thought they were better off staying the way they were. City Engineer, George Brown, discussed 42nd Avenue. He pointed out that this is one of the oldest streets in the City. He further indicated the problems involved on this particular street. One gentleman spoke on what he felt was the reason certain streets are breaking up. He stated that where a new house is put in, then the plumbers do not do a good job in fixing the street after digging it up. He felt that the contractor should be made to do a good job of putting the street back in order following construction. Certain people wanted to know l~ow long it would be before permanent surfacing would be considered on various streets. Mr. Brown stated that so far it had seemed that the people did not want it. One gentleman stated that the streets should be left as they are until permanent streets are put in. Mrs. Kocur, on 42nd Avenue, spoke at length on various subjects related to the street maintenance work proposed. She felt the entire City should be able to respond on whether this work should be assessed or continue to come out of general funds. TYLER STREET 44th to 45th One man at 4444 Tyler Street felt the street was just fine the way it was. Another man on this street also agreed. TYLER STREET 43rd to 44th No discussion on this one. 43rd AVENUE, RESERVOIR BOULEVARD TO BENJAMIN STREET One gentleman expressed the desire for permanent surfacing along this avenue. Until then, he felt the street would be fine the way it is. July 9, 1974 He did not want anything done on it until such time as permanent surfacing could be done. Another man also felt this way. The gentleman at 2]00 - 43rd Avenue was concerned about who is responsible for deciding which streets need work done on them. The City Engineer responded that the Street Superintendent indicates to the Engineering Department which streets he feels need work. The Engineering Dept. examines these streets and then recommends which ones should be considered. The opinion was expressed that most of the people along this street did not want the work done. POLK STREET, 41st Avenue to 43rd Avenue Only one man spoke on this street and he did not feel the work was needed to be done. 44½ AVENUE BETWEEN CENTRAL AND McLEOD STREET INCLUDING ENTRANCES Mr. Ward felt that there are too many trucks traveling on this street which would continue to break up the street. He felt no major maintenance should be done. He further felt that the street is strong enough the way it is and he believes that other people along the street were in agreement with him. As long as it involved a charge to the people along the street, he thought it should not be done. 42½ AVENUE BETWEEN CENTRAL AND McLEOD INCLUDING ENTRANCES The gentleman at 1001-42½ Avenue was strongly opposed to any work on this street. He feels that new homes are causing the break up on this street. If the contractors would put street back in order, then the street wouldn't break up. Mrs. Kocur asked about signs stating the Axle weight allowed on streets. Nayor Nawrocki pointed out that there are laws governing the weight allowed on residential streets and so this is usually not posted. MCKINLEY STREET, 39th to 40th One man living on the corner of McKinley and 39th wanted permanent surfacing to be put in rather than the maintenance w, Jrk. The gentleman at 3930 McKinley also desired permanent surfacing. CLEVELAND STREET 39th to 40th A petition was received requesting permanent surfacing on this street. Mayor Nawrocki indicated that a hearing on permanent surfacing would probably be held along with other hearings on August ]3. 39~ AVENUE FROM CLEVELAND STREET TO MCKINLEY STREET One man requested that permanent surfacing be considered. He felt that other people along this street would also be in favor of permanent surfacing. One lady brought up the fact that trucks from Penny's Supermarket are traveling on McKinley Street and that this should be stopped. Mayor Nawrocki indicated that the City Manager be instructed to contact Penny's Supermarket to inform them that trucks are not al lowed on the residential streets. July 9, 1974 46th AVENUE EXTENSION The City owns all the property along this, so no hearing would be necessary. Further general discussion followed. One man asked that a Stop sign be placed on the entrance street of 42nd Avenue to 42½ Avenue by LaBelle Park. Mayor Nawrocki requested that Mr. Brown have this on the agenda for the next traffic commission meet. A discussion followed on Stop signs in general throughout the City. Motion by Logacz, Second by Land to hold a continued hearing on McKinley Street, 39th to 40th; Cleveland, 39th to 40th; and 39½ Avenue from Cleveland Street to McKinley Street to consider curb, gutter and permanent surfacing at the special meeting on August 13, 1974 at 8:00 p.m. Roll Call - All Ayes Motion by Land, Second by Logacz that the petition received on permanent surfacing on Cleveland Street be accepted and placed on file. Roll Call-All Ayes Each of the councilmen expressed their views on the other streets. Councilman Land felt that since the people did not seem to want the major maintenance work done, and that they felt the streets were fine the way they were, then nothing should be done at all to their streets. A heated discussion followed this. Some of the people did not feel this attitude was correct. They thought potholes, etc. should still be maintained as before but only, no other major reworking be done. Councilman Land further stated that the remaining streets be denied for the major maintenance as proposed. Councilman Logacz agreed that no work be done on the remaining streets. One man in the audience stated that just because the people did not want the work done this year, that it does not mean that they never want the work done. He felt that perhaps next year the streets would need it, and then it could be done, but this year it was not necessary. Another man stated that this did not mean that they were opposed to any work, ever. He stated that in a few years perhaps permanent work would be desi red. Motion by Land, Second by Logacz that no major maintenance as proposed be done on the following streets: Tyler Street, 44th to 45th Tyler Street, 43rd to 44th 43rd Avenue, Reservoir Boulevard to Benjamin Street Polk Street, 41st Avenue to 43rd Avenue 44½ Avenue between Central and McLeod Street including entrances 42½ Avenue between Central and McLeod including entrances. Roll Call - All Ayes Motion by Land, Second by Logacz to adjourn the meeting at 10:40 p.m. Secreta-ty~ c~.~. ~.?~ ~ pro-tem A11 Ayes Bruce G. Nawrocki, Mayor